Simple SNMP Monitor

[c.davis]

There's a simple SNMP monitor available at the http://files.star-os.com in the Utilities section.

The monitor should be suitable for site surveys and for quickly checking signal/noise and Tx/Rx rates.

Enjoy.

[therealboss]

I have just downloaded it, very good, running a treat.


Thanks

[DrLove73]

Yes it is realy nice. Good work. I wish you could expand it in the future releses to cover all obher data (maybe combo-list, or just a list-box, or even something fancier like expandable node-tree).

[pwmaclean]

I am getting an error when trying to run it...
"application failed to initialize properly (blah blah) click ok to terminate the app..."

Hang-on, updating .net, forgot I rebuilt this pc...will report back

Yep, that was it. tks, sorry, rock on!

[c.davis]

Glad you got it going.

[gregclemmons]

why will it not select ethernet ports though.

[c.davis]

It will not select ethernet ports because it was intended as a site survey/install utility. This is simply a tool that displays stats in a single screen that would otherwise require different menu selections from the SSH interface.

Not that I wouldn't be interested in adding in ethernet stats, or anything else for that matter, I just don't want to fill limited screen space with things that don't necessarily pertain to the average install/survey.

If this is something that you feel that I have overlooked then please let me know and I will look into adding it.

why will it not select ethernet ports though.

[DrLove73]

c.davis, you should rename it Survey SNMP Monitor, or Siple Survey Monitor, so people would not mistake it for something that it is not.

[lonnie]

Carl is releasing small parts of tools that will be in the product he is working on. He described what it was for and sorry, but nothing was said about Ethernet. Besides, they do not have signals and rates.

Carl is working on another project and from time to time likes to release advances that are useful for certain situations. Take the tools and use them or not.

[pwmaclean]

It's cool, hey clive, can you give an option to scale the trend over more time? I would like to be able to show the noise/signal over say 12 hours...that would be super handy. ooo ooo ooooo and an alarm on signal level/or quality....? aaahhhhhh sweeeeet!
You know what they say, "give em an inch..."

[timotei]

Carl is releasing small parts of tools that will be in the product he is working on. He described what it was for and sorry, but nothing was said about Ethernet. Besides, they do not have signals and rates.

Carl is working on another project and from time to time likes to release advances that are useful for certain situations. Take the tools and use them or not.

I am looking forward to the release of this 'other project'. :)

[c.davis]

Pepe,
Can't give you an inch, we're metric here in Canada. You can have a cm though, I'll extend the visible timespan a little bit; if it's too long then it won't update often enough to make it useful for surveys/installations.

If you want a 12hr histogram you can hit the stop button after 12hrs which will allow you to scroll back to when you started.

An alarm such as "Help, I've fallen off the roof and now have no signal or noise!".

I'll be releasing an updated version soon that will make use of our inhouse snmp library for you guys to test.

It's cool, hey clive, can you give an option to scale the trend over more time? I would like to be able to show the noise/signal over say 12 hours...that would be super handy. ooo ooo ooooo and an alarm on signal level/or quality....? aaahhhhhh sweeeeet!
You know what they say, "give em an inch..."

[pwmaclean]

Haha, cooool. Actually, I monitor signal/quality/noise when I have a customer complaining about slow speeds. This will help tremendously for that. You are bringing some real value-added tools to the staros line-up. Good work.
pepe out!

[Beebe]

I've spent half my life trying to move away from windows, I hate it with a passion. I'm using OSX, Linux and FreeBSD for servers. I don't want a windows box, and I don't want to have to run parallels or wine or something. :(

I really hope you don't release some awesome tool which makes me have to keep a windows box in the corner.

Thanks,
Roger

[lonnie]

So if we have a wicked Windows based tool you prefer we not release it and just keep it to ourselves? Just asking.

I've spent half my life trying to move away from windows, I hate it with a passion. I'm using OSX, Linux and FreeBSD for servers. I don't want a windows box, and I don't want to have to run parallels or wine or something. :(

I really hope you don't release some awesome tool which makes me have to keep a windows box in the corner.

Thanks,
Roger

[Beebe]

It's just frustrating, that's all. It always seems like there's just ONE thing stopping me from getting rid of windows. Before this it was Quickbooks online which required IE.

Nothing against you guys at all, would be nice if it was not platform specific, though. I'll likely cobble together some kind of way of running it in a virtual machine or something.

Thanks,
Roger

[tog]

Hmm I wouldn't worry about it too much. You could likely run it under parallels in OSX.

[pwmaclean]

Saying you want to get rid of Windows is like saying you want to get rid of that ugly red-headed cousin that keeps following you around...you gotta keep them around - they could be useful someday.

[lonnie]

What we will likely do is ship the new item complete with hardware. That way we have control over the hardware and especially the video. Thus you will not really be keeping a WinBox, just consider that you have an appliance and you don't care what it runs, as long as it does what it is supposed to do.

[Beebe]

I don't really know what you're developing, so I can't comment on if a software release or a hardware appliance type release is better.

If it's going to be something which you'll want displayed on a screen at all times then I don't guess it would be something you'd want to put on a workstation type box anyway, so it might as well be a dedicated machine and it might as well run windows.

Either way, I'm looking forward to seeing what you've got up your sleeves, windows or no windows :)

Thanks,
Roger

[therealboss]

I have found this monitor handy, but I would like to see the numbers much bigger, all this time spent looking at a small screen has done my eyes in. I would like to see the nunbers desplay for Signal & Noise much bigger, apart from this it's a cool tool.

[lonnie]

Given the intended use that is a good idea.

I have found this monitor handy, but I would like to see the numbers much bigger, all this time spent looking at a small screen has done my eyes in. I would like to see the nunbers desplay for Signal & Noise much bigger, apart from this it's a cool tool.

[c.davis]

There is a new version of the 'Simple SNMP Monitor' at http://files.star-os.com

The big highlight of this release is the use of our custom SNMP library which is almost 1MB smaller than the previous one meaning a great increase in speed and a great reduction on system resource use (less than half of the previous release!).

I've also increased the size of the display font making the output easier to read.

Note: The histogram hasn't been increased in this release as I am going to rework the plotter control to improve and add features.

Enjoy and please report back.

[therealboss]

Downloaded the version and thing I have found is on this version is if I select an interface that is disabled on the WAR board, 'Simple SNMP Monitor' will crash.

Like the bigger font but would like it a little bigger, so its easy to see in day light or if your going blind like me :)

Thanks

[c.davis]

Simple SNMP Monitor-0.03 is available at http://files.star-os.com

Here's a rundown of changes:

fixed: timout issue in SNMP library
fixed: app crash for incorrect address, card, community
added: ping response time
added: pause/resume buttons to keep plotting values
added: font size +/- buttons to increase/decrease font sizes to personal taste

Please report back with your findings.

Enjoy.

[therealboss]

I can't see the buttons for the font!!!

Help I'm going blind!!

[c.davis]

Didn't anyone ever tell you; stop or you'll go blind.

[therealboss]

Didn't anyone ever tell you; stop or you'll go blind.



TOoooooooo Late. :)

[therealboss]

All sorted, when I downloaded it, I must have opened the wrong Directory. Think its time to go to bed. !!

[DrLove73]

What we will likely do is ship the new item complete with hardware. That way we have control over the hardware and especially the video. Thus you will not really be keeping a WinBox, just consider that you have an appliance and you don't care what it runs, as long as it does what it is supposed to do.

Server running windows? How long will that box run before it crashes? Or reinstall is needed. Maybe I just have terrible expirience with crashdows.

[lonnie]

We use what we determine to be best for the job. The Linux desktop, as much as I like Linux, is just not to the same level as Windows.

[DrLove73]

I started using Delphi/Kylix for my programing, but someware at the same time I stoped with programing, so I never actualy worked with it.

I thought to suggest Qt (http://trolltech.com/products/qt), but I just saw there prices, and your software will not be Open Source, so that is definetly out. shucks.

Edit: Actualy, I thought about GTK+ (http://www.gtk.org/) . It is GPL.

Maybe Code::Blocks (http://www.codeblocks.org/) or similar IDE would do the cross-platform trick, but at the end, it is your show.

I am moving to Linux, and more and more people I know, becouse just pinging from M$ and Linux makes the difference, not to mention how many times in the past years I lost some data/settings when windows decided not to cooperate. And sluggishnest with time passing and lock-up's crashing it.... yuck.

[Beebe]

I'd agree that with time passing windows on a desktop gets sluggish and infected with various things. However, A server probably wouldn't be such a problem since you don't mess with it add/remove programs etc.

It'd have to be firewalled and it would have to auto update and you'd have to pay for the windows license though.

But it might be worth that for certain programming benefits .net or whatever...

Either way, I'm confident that Lonnie and team are creating something cool, judging by past experience.

Thanks,
Roger

[c.davis]

If a Windows machine is taking on server related tasks and is not used as a general day-to-day desktop machine, it'll keep running like it's supposed to.

The same is true with any tool, just as long as it's used for its intended purpose, it will last for a long long time. The moment that tool is used for something else, you risk its integrity.

[rbolduc]

If a Windows machine is taking on server related tasks and is not used as a general day-to-day desktop machine, it'll keep running like it's supposed to.

The same is true with any tool, just as long as it's used for its intended purpose, it will last for a long long time. The moment that tool is used for something else, you risk its integrity.

So I take it it WON'T come with Limewire installed.. (J/K) ;)


Reed

[c.davis]

There's a new build of Simple SNMP Monitor. Not many changes to the monitor itself but there is an easter egg that's as easy to find as ABC.

[David L. Vrablic]

Seeing that you are in the middle of working with SNMP maybe you could shed a little light on something strange we have discovered.
When we do a walk, snmp is reporting uptimes of 356 (i think )days .
Several of the site are reporting the same thing and my systems guy brought it to my attention today.
He wanted me to ask you folks if something might be broken.
He said he was just looking at the RAW data and it shouldn't be that way.
He even thought it might be after an upgrade but we tried it later and it was the same .
We upgraded a complete 23 unit system to 1.3.6 today with no change.
At least everything is the same now.
Can you help!

[Magician]

With SNMP Mon running on a ap. type "abc" in the host ip and the app crashes? lol

[c.davis]

If SNMP is started before NTP gets a chance to update the system time it could cause this type of thing to happen. If in doubt, login to one of the units and restart SNMP and hopefully that will make a difference. Let us know if that fixes the reported uptime or not.

Seeing that you are in the middle of working with SNMP maybe you could shed a little light on something strange we have discovered.
When we do a walk, snmp is reporting uptimes of 356 (i think )days .
Several of the site are reporting the same thing and my systems guy brought it to my attention today.
He wanted me to ask you folks if something might be broken.
He said he was just looking at the RAW data and it shouldn't be that way.
He even thought it might be after an upgrade but we tried it later and it was the same .
We upgraded a complete 23 unit system to 1.3.6 today with no change.
At least everything is the same now.
Can you help!

[c.davis]

Lol, oops I'll fix that right away. That's not the easter egg but it is a goose.

With SNMP Mon running on a ap. type "abc" in the host ip and the app crashes? lol

[c.davis]

The tool has been fixed and is on the download site.

[David L. Vrablic]

If SNMP is started before NTP gets a chance to update the system time it could cause this type of thing to happen. If in doubt, login to one of the units and restart SNMP and hopefully that will make a difference. Let us know if that fixes the reported uptime or not.

Here the report from my Systems guy:

(4:28:44 PM) Lenny: yes, that does seem to fix it.. it's still a bug tho, but at least it's one we can fix.... cause the uptime on the screen when you login to an AP is fine, it's only what snmp returns that's wrong... if it was a little off, I'd agree with the ntp thing, but it was just 402 days off

[tony]

When the NTP time changes after the system boot, SNMP will indicate 400+ days of uptime.

The SNMP 'uptime' component you are referring too does not represent system uptime, but rather SNMP 'network management' uptime. This will reset back to zero when ever the service is restarted, or the system settings are re-activated.

We will be extending our customized MIB set to include proper system uptime, among other things in the future.

[David L. Vrablic]

Thanks Tony,
I'll pass that along to the guys.
It really Bugs me every time they report that it must be a bug !

[c.davis]

In the meantime, just tell them that it's not a bug.. it's a feature and you've gotten so much done that you're over a year ahead of schedule.

Might be a good time to approach the boss for a raise. :D

[cephlon]

I just reinstalled windows on my machine and I can't seem to get this program to work. As soon as I double click on it I get LNC_SNMO_MON has encountered a problem and needs to close. I updated .net but it didn't seem to help. Any suggestions?

[DrLove73]

.net 2.0 and Net-SNMP?

[cephlon]

I have .net 2.0 installed and Stargaze works fine.
Not sure where to get Net-SNMP though.

[DrLove73]

http://www.net-snmp.org/?

Have you ever seen my signature on this forums? Second row has interesting truth ;-) .

[cephlon]

Yea, found it right after I type that. :cool:
But, it didn't help.

I even uninstalled Net 2 and resinstalled it.

Would the error help anyone?

EventType : clr20r3 P1 : lnc_snmp_mon.exe P2 : 1.0.0.0 P3 : 474c6aab
P4 : lnc_snmp_mon P5 : 1.0.0.0 P6 : 474c6aab P7 : 3 P8 : 11
P9 : system.io.filenotfoundexception

[DrLove73]

oups, you have to add /bin folder of the net-snmp to the PATH variable:

right click on the "My Computer" icon, properties, tab Advanced, button Enviroment Variable at the bottom, find variable "PATH" in SYSTEM VARIABLES, Edit, and add this:
; at the end, that continue with your path to the /bin folder, like this:
;D:\Job\Nadzor mreze\SNMP\binThen 3 times click on OK buttons, and then run program.

[c.davis]

NetSNMP isn't required to use this, it uses our custom snmp library which is built into the app.

I'll check to see what is happening and let you know.

[c.davis]

The download has been updated and should work as expected.

Sorry for the dealy,
Carl

[cephlon]

Works Perfect. Thanks!

[c.davis]

Great, glad it works.