View Full Version : StarV3 X86 & WAR v1.1.0 build 1338 has been released.
The new release can be downloaded from the http://www.star-os.com/starv3 downloads page.
This release is the first to include support for the X86-WRAP platform.
Tested models include WRAP2c w/BIOS v1.09 & v1.11, and WRAP1c-2 w/BIOS v1.09
Minimum flash size needed is 8MB, and 32MB of RAM.
To support the new 6th Gen cards in your WRAP2c, you will need to upgrade to BIOS v1.11.
2006-07-20 UPDATE: There appears to be an issue with writing the .cf file under Windows, using either DiskImg, or physdiskwrite. We have posted a new .cf file for download that will work properly with these two programs. Those using *nix to burn the Compact Flash can continue using the existing .cf, or the new one provided on our downloads page.
Once the WRAP boots, you will be in an unlicensed 'Free Edition' mode that does not expire, time out, or prevent you from saving. In this mode, you can use it as a decent router, as it will contain OSPF and RIP amongst other things. The rest of the features, such as the ability to upgrade, wireless, and so fourth will be available once the system is licensed.
2006-07-20 UPDATE 2: After some testing, it appears as though the WRAP release works as-is with the RB 230 hardware.
2006-07-24 UPDATE: The WRAP cross-over release 2 is available here: strrw-2.11.1-4784.co.bin (http://www.star-os.com/downloads/oem-vnc/strrw-2.11.1-4784.co.bin). With this release, you can upgrade to the current star-v3 x86 edition. All settings will be converted except for Atheros security related options (ACL, WEP and WPA).
Entering a star-v3 license into the cross-over edition is done through the "system->update / enter unlock key" menu option, and should be done before you do your final reboot into star-v3.
If you choose not to add a star-v3 license before you reboot or the star-v3 license you enter is invalid, the system will boot up in a "Free Edition" mode, with wireless and other enhanced features disabled. You will be able to access the system via the Ethernet port, using your existing username, password and IP address.
If I read the License page correctly, do we have pay a yearly fee to upgrade WRAP's?
Yes, there is a yearly renewal for the upgrades on the non-WAR platforms. The fee is quite inexpensive, somewhere around $10.00/yr.
pti-andy
07-19-2006, 07:40 PM
Do you have version changes available? Not sure if I missed it. If not can you post what the changes have been from WAR V1.0.3?
Thanks,
Andy
http://www.star-os.com/release-notes/vncOs-1.1.0.txt
Exciting. Looks pretty slick to see the v3 download page populated with two platforms now!
I wont be upgrading any WRAPs until the step-up v2 release is ready, all the stuff I want to upgrade is going to be like 15 CPE here and 20 CPE there. Not the type of situation where I want to physically visit that many locations.
Yes, there is a yearly renewal for the upgrades on the non-WAR platforms. The fee is quite inexpensive, somewhere around $10.00/yr.
Ok, I think it needs to be more clearly explained how this is working. This is what I have gathered:
$70 for a new v3/WRAP license
$30 for an upgrade from existing v2 license to v3 license
These come with free upgrades for 1 year. Each year after costs $10 annually.
Not paying $10/year/license results in an inability to... (rest of sentence needs to be filled in)
XtremeX
07-20-2006, 06:47 AM
I just download the new V3 for wrap, and noticed that it has the upgrade information in the archive, but there has not been a previous release?
as quoted I wont be upgrading any WRAPs until the step-up v2 release is ready
just wondering what this upgrade would be for?
The instructions are there for completeness. It will also be valid when upgrading from v2 to v3, when the v2 cross-over release is provided.
Ok, I think it needs to be more clearly explained how this is working. This is what I have gathered:
$70 for a new v3/WRAP license
$30 for an upgrade from existing v2 license to v3 license
These come with free upgrades for 1 year. Each year after costs $10 annually.
Not paying $10/year/license results in an inability to... (rest of sentence needs to be filled in)
Not paying $10/yr will only result in an inability to upgrade to releases after that date, but you will still be able to upgrade to all the releases up until that point.
There appears to be an issue with writing the .cf file under Windows, using either DiskImg, or physdiskwrite. We have posted a new .cf file for download that will work properly with these two programs. Those using *nix to burn the Compact Flash can continue using the existing .cf, or the new one provided on our downloads page.
After you use the new .cf file, the WRAP system should boot as expected.
lonnie
07-22-2006, 12:19 AM
Would it not make sense to try it on a close one first? Why not burn a new flash and do some bench testing?
Exciting. Looks pretty slick to see the v3 download page populated with two platforms now!
I wont be upgrading any WRAPs until the step-up v2 release is ready, all the stuff I want to upgrade is going to be like 15 CPE here and 20 CPE there. Not the type of situation where I want to physically visit that many locations.
Actually my first step in bench testing will be testing the v2 --> v3 upgrade process so I'm waiting until that's ready. :)
I'd like my bench test to simulate what I intend to do to my existing client WRAPs running v2.
lonnie
07-24-2006, 11:43 AM
We will soon have the v2 to V3 upgrade ready. It will not be seamless and will simply be a v2 edition that allows a V3 image to be written to flash. Some settings will be saved and it will boot to free mode with Ethernet and Routing only mode. You will require Ethernet access to the system so that you can enter the license and do the configs that we could not save, mostly WEP and radio security settings.
nelson05
07-24-2006, 01:17 PM
I'm hoping this an intermediary release that will be followed by another that provides a more transparent upgrade? Similar to the route that your vx to v3 conversion took where the first couple of releases didn't quite migrate everything over, but shortly thereafter later versions included additional settings to the point where everything pretty much transferred in the upgrade.
This definitely is a step in the right direction, especially for the guys that have their v2 WRAPs on top of a tower, but for us with ~150 v2 WRAPs to upgrade that are all deployed in Rootennas at subscriber homes/businesses, we could really use a conversion that retains the wireless settings to allow for a remote upgrade. Not having to climb on top of a roof and break open an antenna is definitely a plus, but needing inside access at the customer location, is still problematic.
This new release is as complete as it can be. All settings that can be converted, will be. The licensing method between v2 and v3 are vastly different, and as such, will need to have a key entered once the v3 system is up and running.
The cross-over release is now available.
http://forums.star-os.com/showthread.php?t=5634
tkerns
07-24-2006, 07:09 PM
Is the WRAP bios rev reported anywhere in StarOS, I've looked through the System info and don't see it. Is there any way to get this besides a serial cable?
This is only reported on the serial console.
If I can only get into it via ethernet, I still have to visit 50 customer premises.
This will greatly slow my adoption of v3.
Does wpci1 go back to SSID "default" in station mode or anything? If so, this could all be done at night during a "maintenence window" and the AP could be setup as SSID default with no WEP...
The new cross-over release allows you to pre-enter the star-v3 license before you reboot into v3, thus allowing you to get back into your client systems via the wireless interface. (cross-over info has been updated in http://forums.star-os.com/showthread.php?t=5634)
Ok, I think I got it:
Upgrade to special v2 version.
Enter v3 license key.
Flash to v3, reboot.
Will boot up with all of the existing settings except WEP/WPA.
So for me, I would need to do a maintenence window where I turn WEP off at the AP in order to get into each newly-booted v3 WRAP. Each newly-booted v3 WRAP should come up with wpci1 still having the same SSID and IP address, though.
That's doable! I get to do it all from here.
Thanks for your excellent work as usual!
Oh, and missed a step up there. Prerequisite step for licensing would be:
Login to each WRAP involved in the scheduled upgrade work, retrieve its v2 license key. Populate license-keys.com account with necessary funds, $30 per WRAP. Email Lonnie all the v2 license keys that need upgrades to v3?
That is correct. When you upgrade, make sure you take note if your existing v2 key, and provide that along with the new v3 request key to Lonnie, and he will send you a new v3 key for that system.
We are aiming at a mid-week launch of the updated license-keys.com website with star-v3 licensing support.
cal361
07-25-2006, 09:50 AM
Is there no 24 hour demo mode for v3?
No, there is not a 24-hour demo mode in v3. There is instead a Free (unlicensed) mode that allows you to use the system as a router, but has no wireless or other enhanced features until a license is entered.
molsen
07-25-2006, 11:55 AM
I want to upgrade a WRAP with version 2 to Version 3.
Where do I get the upgrade instructions. I have a WRAP2c which has version 2.11.1 ready for the V3 upgrade. I used Starutil to upload the .cf and it was invalid when I tried to upgrade firmware. Using Physdiskwrite erases whatever was there.
What am I missing?
tkerns
07-25-2006, 12:59 PM
Just to make sure.... the settings for VDS will be perserved as well?
Yes, all settings that are in common between v2 and v3 will be preserved.
lonnie
07-25-2006, 06:11 PM
Use the .pkg image for upgrading. You can use starutil or the Windows UtiliStar to upload to the WRAP boards.
Do not upgrade the firmware until you have a license ready to go because a reboot before the license has been input and you lose your settings.
I want to upgrade a WRAP with version 2 to Version 3.
Where do I get the upgrade instructions. I have a WRAP2c which has version 2.11.1 ready for the V3 upgrade. I used Starutil to upload the .cf and it was invalid when I tried to upgrade firmware. Using Physdiskwrite erases whatever was there.
What am I missing?
miles
07-25-2006, 06:46 PM
Speaking of Licenses, could you please process my request for two that I sent this morning Lonnie? I can resend it if you didn't recieve it. It was sent from miles (at) jeffersontx.com
Thanks,
Larry Miles
lonnie
07-25-2006, 07:18 PM
Just check your inbox for my almost immediate response. You merely sent me the MAC address and v2 key, but I require that you send me the Request Key from the v2 to V3 image or the V3 image if you did a new install.
Speaking of Licenses, could you please process my request for two that I sent this morning Lonnie? I can resend it if you didn't recieve it. It was sent from miles (at) jeffersontx.com
Thanks,
Larry Miles
For all those interested in getting a WRAP star-v3 license, please provide the complete request key, as shown in the star-v3 system or star-os cross-over release. Without it, we cannot process your order.
We are currently offering an upgrade discount for current v2 license holders. To qualify for the discount, please send your existing v2 license along with the star-v3 request key.
The license-keys.com website is still undergoing the necessary updates to support star-v3 licensing, so in the meantime, please send your request key and license-keys.com account information to Lonnie via email - networks@valemount.com.
Thanks!
gregclemmons
07-26-2006, 01:09 PM
If I install the changeover release will the 2511's still work?
Reason being I will need to visit the site and change the 2511 to a wlm54g and would like to have the key ready prior to board swap.
The unit has a 2511 in wpci1 & sr9 in wpci2
gregclemmons
lonnie
07-26-2006, 02:17 PM
The changeover release is still a v2 release. Its purpose is to generate a V3 request key and accept a V3 image upload and write it out.
gregclemmons
07-26-2006, 09:34 PM
The changeover release is still a v2 release. Its purpose is to generate a V3 request key and accept a V3 image upload and write it out.
Was that a yes or a no?
Perhaps I was not clear. Can I upgrade this unit to changeover version so that I can get the request code without loosing the 2511. In case I show up at site to change 2511 to wlm54g card and Lonnie is sleeping.
yes | no | or I don't know ( check one )
So far I am very pleased with the smoothness of the transition.
Stratolinks
07-26-2006, 10:34 PM
:confused:
Just wanting a little clarification on what works when V3 WRAP is actually licensed (not the free edition). I just loaded V3 on a spare WRAP on the bench to start some testing and before I go any further, I really need to know if these features are implemented yet.
Does the ISC DHCP server work?
How about CBQ and Firewall?
Maybe even the NTP client?
These are all dimmed out in the free version. I know the CM9 won't show up until it is licensed, and I understand that even then WPA and WEP are not there just yet (I can live with that for some of them), but I do require the DHCP server, CBQ and Firewall, without these, it is a no-go for any V3 upgrades just yet. I would like the NTP client as well, but it is not critical. (Wraps do not keep time very accurately).
The cross-over release is a standard star-os release, with the exception that it supports pre-licensing of the star-v3 software when you do the final upgrade to v3.
One note regarding the cross-over release however, and that it does /not/ support upgrading to star-os firmware any longer.. Once the cross-over is installed, the only upgrade path is to star-v3.
Yes. ISC DHCP server, CBQ, Firewall, NAT and NTP client are all available in the licensed releases.
:confused:
Just wanting a little clarification on what works when V3 WRAP is actually licensed (not the free edition). I just loaded V3 on a spare WRAP on the bench to start some testing and before I go any further, I really need to know if these features are implemented yet.
Does the ISC DHCP server work?
How about CBQ and Firewall?
Maybe even the NTP client?
These are all dimmed out in the free version. I know the CM9 won't show up until it is licensed, and I understand that even then WPA and WEP are not there just yet (I can live with that for some of them), but I do require the DHCP server, CBQ and Firewall, without these, it is a no-go for any V3 upgrades just yet. I would like the NTP client as well, but it is not critical. (Wraps do not keep time very accurately).
lonnie
07-26-2006, 11:00 PM
Sorry, but I thought I was pretty clear. The crossgrade is still v2 and since v2 is v2, it still has the same kernel, features, drivers, etc. Nothing new there, except the ability to write out V3 firmware.
So, YES it will still support the 2511. As soon as you reboot with V3 it will not have 2511 support and since it is a recognized PCI device it will mess up the device numbering, and you might have odd results. I upgraded a unit that had a 2511 as radio #1 and as a result my #2, an Atheros, took the #1 settings for radio, thus the ESSID and everything was wrong. It worked perfectly as soon as I did the new config, but if I had been expecting to connect to the unit through the Atheros I would have been out of luck.
Was that a yes or a no?
Perhaps I was not clear. Can I upgrade this unit to changeover version so that I can get the request code without loosing the 2511. In case I show up at site to change 2511 to wlm54g card and Lonnie is sleeping.
yes | no | or I don't know ( check one )
So far I am very pleased with the smoothness of the transition.
lonnie
07-26-2006, 11:03 PM
V3 is V3. The same features, except for lower performance, are available on the WRAP edition as are on the WAR edition.
:confused:
Just wanting a little clarification on what works when V3 WRAP is actually licensed (not the free edition). I just loaded V3 on a spare WRAP on the bench to start some testing and before I go any further, I really need to know if these features are implemented yet.
Does the ISC DHCP server work?
How about CBQ and Firewall?
Maybe even the NTP client?
These are all dimmed out in the free version. I know the CM9 won't show up until it is licensed, and I understand that even then WPA and WEP are not there just yet (I can live with that for some of them), but I do require the DHCP server, CBQ and Firewall, without these, it is a no-go for any V3 upgrades just yet. I would like the NTP client as well, but it is not critical. (Wraps do not keep time very accurately).
Stratolinks
07-26-2006, 11:15 PM
V3 is V3. The same features, except for lower performance, are available on the WRAP edition as are on the WAR edition.
I wasn't certain what all features were in the V3 WAR version either.
I guess I will go ahead and get teh license so I can try one of these out. The next 2 days are booked full, but maybe after that I can get to it.
One more thing, the Hardware Watchdog on the WRAP is dimmed in the free version. Should I assume it will be enabled in the fully licensed version as well already or is it due in the next update?
I guess I will let you know in a little over a year, if the unit I am trying out is still running then we'll be certain it is stable.
Keep up the good work
lonnie
07-27-2006, 12:17 AM
We will look into the hardware watchdog. It was already reported and we'll see why it is not showing as running. I suspect it is simply a cosmetic issue with the display.
I hope the unit works out for you. As for the 1 year time frame, I have no problem with that. We'll set the x86 version aside until next year and when we know if it is stable or needs fixing, we'll schedule some time to update and fix it.
The hw watchdog is active in the WRAP release at all times.
The next release will properly report it as enabled.
I am currently running a wrap with V2 4784 and wish to upgrade to V3.
Can someone provide instructions as to what to do.
Paul
Instructions have been posted in this thread: http://forums.star-os.com/showthread.php?t=5718
Make sure you download the X86-WRAP version.
Thanks!