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phendry
03-12-2006, 02:04 AM
Hi Guys,
Is there a specific reason why we are limited to 20 VDS tunnels per device? Had a look on the vtun website but it says that the only limit is your hardware. We have a P4 built specifically as a VDS server which serves particular customers and would prefer not having to deploy a new server every 20 clients if possible.
bminish
03-12-2006, 06:38 AM
Hi Guys,
Is there a specific reason why we are limited to 20 VDS tunnels per device? Had a look on the vtun website but it says that the only limit is your hardware. We have a P4 built specifically as a VDS server which serves particular customers and would prefer not having to deploy a new server every 20 clients if possible.
We could terminate directly into a vanilla linux box. IF Lonnie would reveal how he has configured vtund.
vtund can also allow the configuration file to be updated to handle new tunnels without the need to break all the already connected tunnels.
How about it Lonnie? It would hardly be 'parting with the crown jewels' sharing your vtund config with us.
Another option is to run staros server under vmware server. That way you can have multiple instances running on the same box but this is resource intensive
.brendan
lonnie
03-12-2006, 09:22 AM
The use of vtun is a temporary measure and as such will get changed when we are ready. If we get into a situation where guys are using vtun on another system then we will be forced to support vtun forever, and we do not wish to do that.
It is an awesome program but we envision something different. We have looked at the code with the idea of adapting it but it was not designed for what we want. It will take a new technique and thus a new program.
The choice of 20 was based on a decision we made. The current system uses preallocated devices and cannot have scrolling menus, thus ram use and screen real estate were factors. We have to design the embedded code for the lowest possible situation which does limit the power machines, but we have to live with that.
Skaught
03-12-2006, 11:47 AM
I have always used VDS between two devices. Can you have one VDS master with multiple VDS clients on it? In other words "VDS multipoint"
Yes, you can have up to 20 vds sessions, as a mixture of master and clients in a single system.
Skaught
03-12-2006, 12:21 PM
Yes but can a single VDS Master interface have multiple clients connected to it.
This way I could have 20 VDS master interfaces with 20 clients each for a total of 400 end points.
ninedd
03-12-2006, 12:34 PM
Nope, VDS is Point to Point, so 20 servers have 1 end point each = 20 clients.
Skaught
03-12-2006, 12:38 PM
The 20 connection limit effects my new infrastructure design. I guess I will have to go to /30 routed subnets for all my commercial clients. I have more than 20 commercial clients so my original idea of VDSing all my commercial clients to a /24 or /25 of static IPs is out.
Oh well. both options had plusses and minuses, now my decision got easy.
valenti
06-09-2007, 11:07 AM
Just to confirm this: a VDS is only for connecting two endpoints?
That is what I'm seeing here, but the manual isn't too clear on this: "Each VDS has only two endpoints, one server and one or more clients. The VDS can be a multipoint circuit." The first sentence seems contradictory, first saying 2 endpoints, but then says multiple clients. And the screen shot has a checkbox for multi-point.
Maybe this is a feature that was pulled?
Each link is pt to pt but you can have more than one connection to the server. I have a customer that has two links to the same wrap from different client locations. Each is a separate vds link. It sounds confusing and I'm not sure I'm helping matters much!
sligbot
06-09-2007, 07:36 PM
Just to help clarify: the multipoint circuit concept refers to a system in which up to 20 different clients can connect to the one server. It is the same spoke/hub concept of a star network topology, but instead of physical links existing, they are logical. So you have a hub (the server) which has multiple spokes (clients). The result is a powerful way to do some amazing things with your network since its all logically-driven.
--Rich
Mkleibrink
06-10-2007, 06:10 AM
I have the same problem. I have a limited number of public IP's. Many business customers are crying for public IP's. I thought of a pptp server. But I am not sure what would be the best solution for public IP's for my customers. Routing a /30 subnet is consuming to much address space. it would be great if there could be a way to route just one IP addres to a customer.
Can anyone help me on this?
lonnie
06-10-2007, 10:19 AM
There is a new Server class of firmware under development that will address this. Expect us to have a solution by September. Actually, September will see a lot of real neat toys and tools being released.
There is a new Server class of firmware under development that will address this. Expect us to have a solution by September. Actually, September will see a lot of real neat toys and tools being released.
Any update on this thread Lonnie?
lonnie
10-06-2007, 10:20 PM
We've been busy with new hardware ports and 1.3.x firmware. No time frame, other than it has been started and we are sort of using it.
something
03-14-2008, 11:40 AM
Does the current server version support more than 20 VDS tunnels?
lonnie
03-14-2008, 07:52 PM
The 20 limit is based on the screen size available for menus, so no that has not yet changed.
chrismic
04-03-2008, 02:56 PM
But can these multiple VDS's located on the server be in the same bridge?
lonnie
04-03-2008, 03:01 PM
The VDS devices are just virtual devices, and can have as many as you wish in a single bridge group.
I have the same problem. I have a limited number of public IP's. Many business customers are crying for public IP's. I thought of a pptp server. But I am not sure what would be the best solution for public IP's for my customers. Routing a /30 subnet is consuming to much address space. it would be great if there could be a way to route just one IP addres to a customer.
Can anyone help me on this?
There is a new Server class of firmware under development that will address this. Expect us to have a solution by September. Actually, September will see a lot of real neat toys and tools being released.
Did i miss out on the release of this ? im having the same probleme as Mkleibrink.
lonnie
04-16-2008, 10:44 PM
Things came up.
DrLove73
04-17-2008, 01:39 AM
Server version of X86-PC WAS released, BUT for now there are not differences to regular X86-PC release.
You are expected to install and licence Server version now (or when tou need it), and wait for extended capabilites, since (as I recall) you will not be able to upgrade from X86-PC ot Server version.