Confused

[nickm324]

On your website under the WAR 2 board in the listed features it show this:

OS: StarOS v3 with Atheros support on internal flash.

Will the WAR 2 units run the StarOS or just the StarVx?

I am really confused.

What is the difference in the StarOS V2.10.0 and V3 and StarVx.



Thanks for any info in advance.

[titan_wireless]

http://forums.star-os.com/showthread.php?t=4707

[nickm324]

http://forums.star-os.com/showthread.php?t=4707

Thanks for the link and I read the whole thread, but that does not specificly answer my questions.

[go.fast]

Making an assumption here from what I've read on the forums.
WAR boards will run the new star-os version V3 as well as the current version of VX.

Not sure if VX will be advanced in the future.

The first hardware to get V3 is the WAR boards and then the other platforms will follow.

So the snswer is yes the war boards will run star-os and not only VX.

And Jan 6th is the date for WAR version of V3 release.

( I thought I was gonna have a heart attack waiting.....)

George

[lonnie]

The wait will continue, unfortunately. Tony has been "under the weather" (sick) since Christmas with a real nasty flu bug.

I know this hurts people plans, and if there was anything I could to make it better, I would. The release will happen, and I am not wishing to say anymore than that at this time.

I will notify the Forums when we have the new software on our own network and starting to burn in. At that time I will have an idea of the time before we can release it. This release cannot be rushed, so please don't attempt to persuade or threaten me to speed things up. It takes what it takes for system design.

[nickm324]

Making an assumption here from what I've read on the forums.
WAR boards will run the new star-os version V3 as well as the current version of VX.

Not sure if VX will be advanced in the future.

The first hardware to get V3 is the WAR boards and then the other platforms will follow.

So the snswer is yes the war boards will run star-os and not only VX.

And Jan 6th is the date for WAR version of V3 release.

( I thought I was gonna have a heart attack waiting.....)

George
Ok I understand now that V3 will work with the WAR boards, so I am assuming V2 is not compatible at all.

We are having lots of problems with our WAR unit. Rebooting for no apparent reason and constant dropped clients.

Many of our clients have to refresh thier browsers mutiple times to get a complete webpage to come through.

There is no decent documentation on the StarVx OS and some of the settings may not be as self explanatory to some people as they are to others and I can't say that I agree with some of the replies I have read on here when people ask questions about settings and documentation. There should be at least some minimal docs on the settings. Don't seem like it would take long at all to throw something together on the current available settings in the StarVx OS.

I appreciate any help I can get.

Thanks in advance.

[lonnie]

Any questions about settings can be asked here. It sounds like you are using the boards for client or AP use. You did know that I was only recommending them for p2p backhaul use? We know that works since we have them in our backhaul at 55+ days of uptime and we get 20 to 25 mbps across 4 repeaters scattered over 100 km of our Valley.

If you can send me a login I'll take a look at your settings.

[David L. Vrablic]

Hi Lonnie,
Sorry to hear about Tony and the "Mokus" (Feeling bad,'Bummer")

A question:
Do you feel the WAR is "Ripe enough" for video camera network yet."
Hub and spoke configeration.
9 Cameras.

Stay well,

[lonnie]

No. It will require the new release. Currently the WAR should not be used for anything but p2p.

We have begun using them as clients with StarVx, but the AP in those instances are WRAP boards with 2511 and even TT CPE units with Orinoco.

[nickm324]

Any questions about settings can be asked here. It sounds like you are using the boards for client or AP use. You did know that I was only recommending them for p2p backhaul use? We know that works since we have them in our backhaul at 55+ days of uptime and we get 20 to 25 mbps across 4 repeaters scattered over 100 km of our Valley.

If you can send me a login I'll take a look at your settings.


No I did not realize they were only being used for backhaul.

Yes we are using it in AP mode with clients connecting.

Will version 3 of StarOS be released soon and be useable for AP and Client connections?

[lonnie]

We'll have the first inhouse beta shortly on a link from our office to our Internet feed about 1 km away. Then we'll expand the test and have the new code on 8 remote repeaters spanning 100 km. Three of those repeaters are Solar Power only.

The WAR backbone is getting 20 to 25 mbps with StarVx through 6 repeaters to fast Pentium Servers. That is through 10 radios and still gets more than 20 mbps, end to end. The previous WRAP backbone, same number of radios, achieved a respectable 3 to 4 mbps. We'll have this converted to StarOS v3 as soon as we can and we'll report the results on this platform. It will also be a good test to see if it can handle the load since all of our traffic uses this backbone, or at least parts of it.

It is getting real close and rest assured, releasing this new v3 for WAR is the ONLY priority we have at this point in time. Well, we do eat and and sleep, but not much else.

[ninedd]

...releasing this new v3 for WAR is the ONLY priority we have at this point in time. Well, we do eat and and sleep, but not much else.WAITAMINUTE, WAITAMINUTE!

You guys sleep AND eat? What's up with that!?! I mean, V3 is important to me! I'm OK with you guy's sleeping OR eating, but sleeping AND eating? That explains what the big holdup is!

If you can get that down to sleeping OR eating, I'm sure you could shave a day or so off the realease date! ;)

[HoeDing]

We'll have the first inhouse beta shortly on a link from our office to our Internet feed about 1 km away. Then we'll expand the test and have the new code on 8 remote repeaters spanning 100 km. Three of those repeaters are Solar Power only.

Sorry to thread hijack, but I would be interested in hearing about what sort of setup you have for your solar hops. Many hops that we might be interested in doing would be in the middle of the bush, and diesel generators like we are using for our other radio towers would be quite overkill and require regular maintenence.

[lonnie]

We do overkill for Solar sites. I use 4 or 5 Panasonic 195W panels, Outback MX-60 charge controller and 12 batteries with 1,100 AHR rating to make 24V. I have one site that has required use of the Honda 3500W generator so it will be upgraded to a 10 panels. The trouble this year has been almost 3 months of cloudy socked in weather.

I was up the other day and the site was in total fog but was giving me almost 1A of charge. That does reduce the demand but the batteries still get dragged down for the other 17 hours of darkness. Today is sunny and the site is doing 35A into the batteries so we have some good recharge happening.

[jeff]

Wow, lattitude is everything. We are at 45 N and what you are describing could run a cell tower. I guess the real difference is we get a lot of sun for our 8 hours of daylight. I don't think I have ever seen 5 straight days of clouds.

Just to take this thread back on track. I certainly don't want to be a pest, but any guidance on v3 for the WAR would be greatly appreciated. The lack of bridging is killing me with one customer. I know you have gotten burned by setting the 2 earlier dates, but any guess would be better than nothing. Even a beta that just fixes the bridging issues would get me out of a jam.

[HoeDing]

Wow, lattitude is everything. We are at 45 N and what you are describing could run a cell tower.

heh, Valemount is 53 N and I am at 57 N :P. Around christmas we were getting about 6 hours of usable sunlight per day :(

[tog]

12 1100AHR batteries!? Wow!
If I decided to start doing solar (mostly so my remote sites could survive days without power after a hurricane) I'm in a much nicer place for it. There are no days without sun around here, 1 of those panels would be overkill.

Do you have some kind of remote monitoring for your MX-60s? I've never had one but from what I can see it has the capability to connect things to it such as temperature monitors and a remote monitoring system. Did you get a remote monitoring thingy with an ethernet port or do you just have to drive over to go take a look at it?

What are you typically connecting to one of those power setups, a WAR board or two? It seems like 12 1100AHR batteries would run a couple WAR boards for eternity.

[lonnie]

These are 2V cells, so the total is 1,100 A-Hr at 24V. Fugure 0.3A per WAR, 2 boards, so 0.6A draw. That draws 14.4 A per day so I have about 76 days of use assuming full charge to drawn flat. We just had 3 months of essentially no charge, so it is appropriate that we are seeing batteries getting low and needing us to run a generator.

12 1100AHR batteries!? Wow!
If I decided to start doing solar (mostly so my remote sites could survive days without power after a hurricane) I'm in a much nicer place for it. There are no days without sun around here, 1 of those panels would be overkill.

Do you have some kind of remote monitoring for your MX-60s? I've never had one but from what I can see it has the capability to connect things to it such as temperature monitors and a remote monitoring system. Did you get a remote monitoring thingy with an ethernet port or do you just have to drive over to go take a look at it?

What are you typically connecting to one of those power setups, a WAR board or two? It seems like 12 1100AHR batteries would run a couple WAR boards for eternity.

[tog]

Wow, you must never see the sun. That's a hell of a lot of runtime.

Are those calculations WAR boards with 2 or 4 CM9s?

So to monitor your sites do you have to go out to the site or do you have something that allows you to monitor your charging controller remotely via IP? The closest thing I see that would allow remote monitoring for that charging controller is something that connects to a serial port.

[lonnie]

We visit the site, since we like to physically inspect things every so often. All calcs are with 4 CM9 radios. That is our standard repeater.

[palmczak]

We do overkill for Solar sites. I use 4 or 5 Panasonic 195W panels, Outback MX-60 charge controller and 12 batteries with 1,100 AHR rating to make 24V. I have one site that has required use of the Honda 3500W generator so it will be upgraded to a 10 panels. The trouble this year has been almost 3 months of cloudy socked in weather.

I was up the other day and the site was in total fog but was giving me almost 1A of charge. That does reduce the demand but the batteries still get dragged down for the other 17 hours of darkness. Today is sunny and the site is doing 35A into the batteries so we have some good recharge happening.


That is unbelieveable! I run 4 batteries and that gives about 10 days with no sun. We are at 40 N Lat, and most days the batteries are at full charge by 10AM. According to national weather wew get more sun than Miami, to bad it is so COLD. We recorded -52F on the mountain in December.

[lonnie]

We live at the juncture of three mountain ranges, thus we have two valleys joining as well. This makes for some funny weather patterns as the different systems hit and mix it up. This year was the worst though, in terms of cloud cover.