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tog
12-06-2005, 09:20 PM
I thought maybe I remembered seeing something about StarOS v3 x86 being released around a certain estimated time but I can't find it.

So, that's my question. What's the rough guess on the time frame for the x86 version of StarOS v3?

I very much like my sturdy x86 hardware platform, I just need some sturdy software for it that supports QoS. I have tested WMM/WME and it does what it's supposed to. The whole AP can be lagged 100ms and an appropriately TOS-tagged packet will get there in under 10ms.

lonnie
12-06-2005, 10:26 PM
Expect x86 version near the end of January. WAR comes first and then we get it working on x86. x86 and sturdy rarely are used in the same sentence.

ninedd
12-06-2005, 10:51 PM
Expect x86 version near the end of January. WAR comes first and then we get it working on x86.Hi Lonnie. I'm confused on what the differences, benefits, pros/cons will be of Version 3 vs Vx when it comes to both running on the WAR hardware? I had kinda assumed that V3 would be for our legacy systems, and Vx would be reserved for the WAR hardware.

tog
12-06-2005, 10:53 PM
VIA EPIA = sturdy

ninedd
12-06-2005, 11:56 PM
VIA EPIA = sturdyHi. I've been interested in MiniITX for a while, but don't want to expirament and end up with a stack of really cool paperweights. :) Which EPIA board do you use with best results? I'm guessing one of the fanless boards? And how do you enclose and power them? Thanx. :)

lonnie
12-07-2005, 09:24 AM
There has been much discussion of why the move is being made. Rather than have me do your research please use the Search and or go directly to the WAR topics.

Hi Lonnie. I'm confused on what the differences, benefits, pros/cons will be of Version 3 vs Vx when it comes to both running on the WAR hardware? I had kinda assumed that V3 would be for our legacy systems, and Vx would be reserved for the WAR hardware.

ninedd
12-07-2005, 03:28 PM
There has been much discussion of why the move is being made. Rather than have me do your research please use the Search and or go directly to the WAR topics.Hi. Sorry, but I'm 'search challenged'. :( I've been looking all over the forums and I can't really see anything about Ver3 on WAR boards. Everything I read is about Vx on the WAR boards.

If anyone could point me in the right direction - to a particular thread (or even what search terms to use) that would be great.

rbolduc
12-07-2005, 03:52 PM
I tried to do a search but the system does not allow to search for V3 + War together V3 is too short, or so says the search engine...

Where's my google button :)

Reed

palmczak
12-07-2005, 04:31 PM
This will get you started


http://forums.star-os.com/showthread.php?t=4707

lonnie
12-07-2005, 04:50 PM
Using the Search near the top I entered v3 war and it came back with pages and pages of discussion.

I tried to do a search but the system does not allow to search for V3 + War together V3 is too short, or so says the search engine...

Where's my google button :)

Reed

ninedd
12-07-2005, 11:44 PM
This will get you started http://forums.star-os.com/showthread.php?t=4707Thanx. :) This is a very useful answer, thanx. I had searched for "V3 WAR" and got 100 threads, abnd after a couple hours of reading, none of them had anything to do with V3 actually running on a WAR platform - they simply happened to have those two terms in the same message. :) Thanx.

And, FWIW, I think going back to a single code base is the best news I've heard in a long time. The WAR platform should bring the performance and cost and 4 radio solution that is needed, while having the same basic development on WAR and PC has to be the most efficient for everyone. Good on you guys. :)

ninedd
12-08-2005, 12:00 AM
Using the Search near the top I entered v3 war and it came back with pages and pages of discussion.Yes, when I entered 'v3 war' it produced 4 pages = 100 threads. It also said...

"The following words are either very common, too long, or too short and were not included in your search: v3"

I also obviously got the same results with 'vx war' and 'v3 vx war', so in reality, I was seeing every thread that contained the word WAR, which is pretty general. I read for a couple hours, but didn't find that 1 in 100 that actually explained the bridging / routing code problems with Vx and the decision to do V3 on WAR platforms as well. I appreciate the link palmczak provided, and FWIW, I think you guys are on the right track for sure. :)

tog
12-08-2005, 04:29 AM
Hi. I've been interested in MiniITX for a while, but don't want to expirament and end up with a stack of really cool paperweights. :) Which EPIA board do you use with best results? I'm guessing one of the fanless boards? And how do you enclose and power them? Thanx. :)

I have been using nothing but the original VIA EPIA, AKA the "EPIA 5000" which is a fanless C3/533MHz. I have found that I can pump 90+ mbit through it and tons of packets per second.

I power them with a DC-DC power supply that takes 11-30V in and I plug 12V DC into that DC-DC ATX power supply via a PoE injector. At the moment I am using the expensive Hyperlink PoE kits for VIA boards because they are capable of 24W output. I'm using grey plastic NEMA enclosures, we drill holes and mount things using a variety of creative but effective methods.

titan_wireless
12-08-2005, 06:30 AM
I have found that I can pump 90+ mbit through it and tons of packets per second

What would a ton of packets per second =? Do you have an actual figure? I am very interested in hearing your results. Also what Radio are you using?

Thanks

rbolduc
12-08-2005, 06:54 AM
Using the Search near the top I entered v3 war and it came back with pages and pages of discussion.


Yea but it omits the V3 .. so all your searching is "WAR" See Below

Page 1 of 4 1 2 3 > Last »
Showing results 1 to 25 of 100
Search took 0.25 seconds. Search: Key Word(s): war
The following words are either very common, too long, or too short and were not included in your search: v3

Reed

PS Saw Someone elst also posted this... Sorry ;)

Mark
12-08-2005, 09:36 AM
Just for clarity's sakes...

You want to use the Epia board with the Eden processor. It consumes about half the power that the C3 does - which is to say, makes half the heat. No, this does not mean the board consumes half the power... Less, to be sure, but not half. The chips on the motherboard also consume some power, as does the ram, etc.

There are several boards with the Eden processor... The Epia 5000, which is a 533 mhz and pc133 ram. The Epia ML5000 which is the same processor, but has ddr 266 ram. The ML6000 is also fanless, but has a 600 mhz processor instead of 533.

Further boards that use the Eden (lower power consumption) processor are:

ME6000
CL6000 (has two ethernet ports)

Certain versions of the Epia SP also use the Eden processor. Specifically, the fanless ones.

The M1 ATX dc to dc power supply can handle a huge array of input voltages, and appears to be quite efficient. Coupled with one of these, a 24V power supply should be capable of powering a mini-itx over more than 100 feet of CAT 5.

tog
12-12-2005, 02:01 AM
What would a ton of packets per second =? Do you have an actual figure? I am very interested in hearing your results. Also what Radio are you using?

Thanks

I put 10,000 packets per second through its atheros 5GHz turbo <--> ethernet at some point without maxing it out (that was 10k in/out one interface being bridged in/out another interface) but I'm afraid I didn't record any results, this was just something I did quick to get an idea. It didn't skip a beat. I don't ever remember trying a packet per second test with an atheros card being in non-turbo-mode in either 11a or 11g, though.

I am using all Atheros CM9 radios.

Yes, I definitely would want to stick to the boards using the fanless Eden processor with the very little power consumption. I love the EPIA 5000, I might actually try one of the other boards with Edens on them at some point, but the original EPIA 5000 has been so solid for me I've been hesitant to use anything except what I know works.

titan_wireless
12-12-2005, 07:29 AM
I put 10,000 packets per second through its atheros 5GHz turbo <--> ethernet at some point without maxing it out (that was 10k in/out one interface being bridged in/out another interface) but I'm afraid I didn't record any results, this was just something I did quick to get an idea. It didn't skip a beat. I don't ever remember trying a packet per second test with an atheros card being in non-turbo-mode in either 11a or 11g, though.


WOW. I did'nt think that many packets per second is possible over wireless!

Lonnie,

Can the WAR boards push that many packets per second over wireless? I thought only ethernet (wire) was capible of packet rates that fast?

lonnie
12-12-2005, 08:47 AM
Sounds about right. That is why we are no longer supporting the old, last generation technology. It is time to take a step forward.

titan_wireless
12-12-2005, 09:17 AM
Sounds about right. That is why we are no longer supporting the old, last generation technology. It is time to take a step forward.

Sounds great for an AP.