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We are in the process of investigating some problems some people are seeing with Senao cards.
Are there any users using the Senao cards in the v1.13.2 release with success?
How many are unable to use these cards in the v1.13.2 release? What are the symptoms? (ie. not detected, hangs on pcmcia activation, etc.)
Can you also list your system spec as well as the pcmcia adapter brand and chipset if possible.
Have you tried adjusting the pcmcia IRQ settings under the Advanced menu?
Thanks!
bobbyc
11-20-2003, 02:03 PM
Tony,
I have a couple towers using 1.13.2 and senao AP/clients; and could let you log into them and take a look around.
If I enabled PPTP client on these towers, that wouldn't mess up the clients passing thru their pptp clients, right? It would just let anyone out to the internet who is online at the time, whether they have their pptp client enabled or not.
Bob C
Thank you for the information. There will be a new release shortly which we are hoping will solve the problem some are seeing.
Thanks!
bobbyc
11-20-2003, 02:25 PM
Oops, forgot to say that I haven't seen any problems; and I was incorrect in saying I have any client senao 200mw starOS machines, just APs.
Bob C
georgew
11-20-2003, 02:46 PM
I have one 1.13.2 client I put a 200mw senao in.... that part works fine... pptp doesn't work.... but I have since downgraded to 1.13.1, and saw no difference. I did not mess with the pcmcia settings. I'm using elan 111's.
David L. Vrablic
11-20-2003, 05:40 PM
I set up a box using one of the C3 733 boards with router software.
Loaded 1.13.1.
I used the 200 Mw Prism radios that TT sells.
Slot 1 was Infra
Slot 2 set to AP mode.
PCI adapters are generic RICOH cards.
The problem is I loose the keyboard and the cloc stops updating after it is booted up to the menu for about a min.
When it does come up if I pull one of the cards it lockes up.
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Discovered that the dmesg log says that the radios are 3.3 VDC units.
The PCI cards do not have a regulator.
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Here is where wierd comes to play.
I popped in a couple of the little P110 PCI adapters and everything is solid.
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Any ideas.
I am sure these cards arn't anywhere optimum but I had to swap out that box to get 10 people back on line.
georgew
11-20-2003, 07:32 PM
Random compatability problems with consumer-grade electronics.
Perhaps one card has less voltage drop than the other, while delivering the 3v supply. Thicker copper in the right place would do it. A 3.3v regulator running off of a 5v supply is less likely to have a problem.
David L. Vrablic
11-20-2003, 08:23 PM
That is the conclusion that I came up with.
I was just surprised that my "poorest cards, worked the best".
I know they have throughput problems but at least they don't lock up.
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I didn't add to the last post, but I did try two of the RICOH cards with the regulators and got the same intermittiant lockups.
Looks like power problems supplying to the higher powered radios on those type of cards
Now I know why Lonnie is trying to get away :wink:
I think I'll head for Disney when the snow hit up here.
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I can't wait till we get some matching hardware that is sanctioned and stable.
I am waiting for the WIRP specials.
Are they on there way ?
lonnie
11-20-2003, 10:00 PM
PCEngines says end of January. That seems like an eternity to me right now.
I have a soekris 4511 with a senao 200mw mini-pci from fament running without any probs so far(locked up about a week ago, but I'm thinking power glitch)
lemme know if you come down to disney, I'm 30-45 mins away from it.
radev
11-27-2003, 10:33 AM
I am now testing the 1.13.3b4 (3850)
and i still have the senao 200Mw long range problem of a crashing system
1.13.1 is the last working official version which is working here
when i do an update it crashes during boot (when initializing the pcmcia controller)
when i do an new installation it does work until i do activate changes when the complete system is crashing. (a reboot does not solve the problem an new install is the only option)
please.... solve this problem becouse the orinoco which i am user is not strong enough to work in the other room I NEED THE SENAO..........
help help
(the second HD is working if it is secondary master... (primary slave does not work)
We are in the process of investigating some problems some people are seeing with Senao cards.
Are there any users using the Senao cards in the v1.13.2 release with success?
How many are unable to use these cards in the v1.13.2 release? What are the symptoms? (ie. not detected, hangs on pcmcia activation, etc.)
Can you also list your system spec as well as the pcmcia adapter brand and chipset if possible.
Have you tried adjusting the pcmcia IRQ settings under the Advanced menu?
Thanks!
Have you tried adjusting the pcmcia IRQ settings under the Advanced menu?
radev
11-27-2003, 11:35 AM
what setting must i use for the system sold by valemount (Via 733 with ricoh pcmcia controller)
and with the 1.13.1 it is working
Try the second option and if that does not work, move it back to option 1 and let us know your results.
Thanks!
radev
11-27-2003, 12:19 PM
I did try the second option, but still the same problem stops during booting
Thank you. The problem must reside in the fact that our pcmcia card services have been upgraded since v1.13.1, and are causing a problem with the Senao cards for some users.
We'll do some testing, and hopefuly have a solution for the next release.
Thanks!
radev
11-27-2003, 12:29 PM
Thanx, I can't wait......
bobbyc
11-28-2003, 09:55 AM
Well the 200mw senao cards I have in AP mode with 1.13.2 are using the orinoco/avaya/lucent branded TI PCMCIA to PCI adapter cards. I'm not using ricoh in these machines. I'm also using a 200mw zcomax 2.5 card in one of these TI cards and no problem with 1.13.2.
If you want me to test anything, let me know. I have several 200mw senaos and ricoh and TI adapter cards.
Bob C
Bossman
12-05-2003, 08:51 PM
I had the same problem as "radev" with 1.13.1, but with no Senao cards and a different motherboard entirely. I have one system that I don't dare try to upgrade at this point.
It broke in 1.13.1 and hangs in the exact same spot on bootup. I ended up swapping the motherboard for an exact duplicate (same model) and used all the CF, RAM and CPU. Everything was fine.
Never saw any other issues on other systems.
Arthur
georgew
12-06-2003, 12:24 AM
Interestingly, everywhere I have a senao card, I have seen nearly flawless operation. I'm mostly using Soekris boards.
My demarc cards were intermittant in the soekris, and I blamed that on soekris because other people seemed to have good luck with them. However they are also intermittant in every pcmcia adapter I have tried them in.
I also have some of the minipci senao cards, they work great too... though I'm not too fond of the hirose pigtail connectors.
By coincidence, the problems reported regarding the Senao radio cards were actually caused by the > 19 character ESSID bug in the previous BETA releases. The Senao cards should work as expected in the latest releases.
Thanks!